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Jel ima negde tekst celog Zakona? Zanima me cisto da vidim da li ce primoravati na vakcinaciju i odrasle kad sledeci put izmisle neki svinjski, teleci ili drugi grip. Takodje bi bilo lepo da objasne zasto je samo u Srbiji + zemljama istocne evrope vakcina obavezna a u zapadnoj i severnoj nije. 

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Vaistinu, ljudi koji idu kod lekara samo kad im treba lekarska pomoć su veoma loš uzorak, kapiram da se ovi što se viđaju sa generacijom na brojanju recepata ok provode, nekog sretneš na pijaci, nekog u DZ, saznaš ko je odapeo, čija su deca probisveti, posereš se po vučiću, ispunjen dan realno :tf:

 

Jedan covek je los uzorak. :)

Jel ima negde tekst celog Zakona? Zanima me cisto da vidim da li ce primoravati na vakcinaciju i odrasle kad sledeci put izmisle neki svinjski, teleci ili drugi grip. Takodje bi bilo lepo da objasne zasto je samo u Srbiji + zemljama istocne evrope vakcina obavezna a u zapadnoj i severnoj nije. 

 

Odakle ti ova informacija o obaveznosti?

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Zwerko   

Ovo je dok je jos bio predlog, ali posto su ga svi podrzavali ne verujem da je pretrpeo znacajnije izmene, a sigurno ce uskoro biti objavljen i finalni tekst

http://www.parlament.gov.rs/upload/archive/files/lat/pdf/predlozi_zakona/833-15.pdf

Edit: sad vidim, nije bas nista promenjeno osim sto za do sada obavezne vakcine nije neophodan pristanak roditelja.

Edited by Zwerko

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Zwerko   

Pa sve imas na Blicu  :tf:

 

http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/551436/OBAVEZNA-VAKCINACIJA-Sta-vas-ceka-ako-necete-vakcinu-a-sta-vas-zbunjuje

 

Jedina promena u ovom zakonu koliko ja kontam jeste da je ranije bilo dovoljno da roditelj ne potpise da je saglasan s davanjem vakcije i to je to. Sada je ta odluka na lekaru, a ne na roditelju deteta. Nisam ni ja sad da neko treba da dodje da ih corkira sto nisu vakcinisali decu, ali po mom vidjenju je to slicno kao kada neko ne daje decu u osnovnu skolu - prvo kazna pa onda socijalni radnici pa u najgorem slucaju oduzimanje i skolovanje dece kroz sistem socijalne sluzbe. I znam da je to sve kod nas raspad, ali prosto mora da negde drzava zauzme stav da nije ok ne vakcinisati decu, to podrzavam. 

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Meni je lekar rekao da ne preporucuje zbog alergija, a da je odluka na nama (govorim o MMR), tako da miha nije ni dobio...

 

Ako ti malecki nije alergican na proteine iz jaja - kanda prihvatas veliki rizik imho.

 

Ja bih se raspitao kod nekoliko lekara.

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prota_   

Jel ima negde tekst celog Zakona? Zanima me cisto da vidim da li ce primoravati na vakcinaciju i odrasle kad sledeci put izmisle neki svinjski, teleci ili drugi grip. Takodje bi bilo lepo da objasne zasto je samo u Srbiji + zemljama istocne evrope vakcina obavezna a u zapadnoj i severnoj nije. 

 

zakon ne propisuje obaveznu vakcinaciju u tom slučaju ali ostavlja pravo da se može proglasiti vanredna vakcinacija u slučaju pojave epidemije.

 

ovo za zapad je istina samo za neke vakcine samo u nekim državama. i kod nas je vakcinacija obavezna samo za određeni uzrast ili određenu grupu ljudi kao i kod njih. piše sve u zakonu koji je zverko okačio, strana 8.

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Meni je fascinantno da je akcenat na skidanju odgovornosti sa roditelja, odnosno na preuzimanju odgovornosti od strane države. I onda poziv na slobodu izbora. Kakva budalaština nezavisno do vakcine.

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Zwerko   

 

Parents of diphtheria boy 'feel terrible guilt'

 
The parents of a child who this week became the first recorded case of diphtheria in Spain for three decades have said they feel terrible about taking the decision not to vaccinate.
 
The mother and father of the six-year-old who is fighting for his life at the Intensive Care Unit of Barcelona’s Vall de Hebron hospital are “destroyed and feel cheated” by the anti-vaccination movement that convinced them not to immunize their son.
 
Antoni Mateu, Catalonia’s regional secretary for public health said he had met the parents of the child and they had expressed their regret over their lapse of judgement.
 
"They are a lovely couple and both feel a terrible sense of guilt," he told a press conference on Friday.
 
He stressed that no action was planned against the parents, whose names have not been made public, either for failing to vaccinate their child or to hold them accountable for the cost of the treatment or expense of containing the infection.
 
However, he pledged to pursue offending anti-vaccination platforms who "spread lies and cause confusion" as they persuade people against the state-recommended immunization programme.
 
Authorities are currently working to prevent the spread of the childhood infection, identifying those who may be at risk after coming in contact with the child.
 
Diphtheria is an infectious disease caused by the bacterium corynebacterium diphtheriae that usually affects young children and the elderly. 
 
It is spread through the respiratory tract via coughing and sneezing and has a mortality rate of one in ten.
 
The childhood illness was eradicated in Spain almost 30 years ago thanks to routine vaccination programmes
 
The boy from the town of Olot, near Girona, first showed symptoms of the illness on May 25th. It was reported that he had just spent several days at a school camp, but no further cases have yet been detected.
 
The boy was said to be "responding well to treatment" but was still "in a serious condition" according to a spokesman at the hospital.
 
It is the first recorded case since 1986 when the childhood illness was completely eradicated in Spain thanks to a systematic vaccination programme.
 
The case has provoked furious debate in Spain over whether parents should be legally obliged to vaccinate their children.
 
It was widely reported that the parents of the 6-year-old suffering from diphtheria had opted not to vaccinate him, part of a small but growing minority of parents against immunization because of their concerns about side effects of vaccines.

 

http://www.thelocal.es/20150605/parents-of-diphtheria-boy-feel-terrible-guilt

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Zwerko   

Mali resurect teme ali po pitanju aktuelnih desavanja kod nasih suseda gde je taj antivaxxers pokret jos jaci Epidemija Malih Boginja U Rumunskom Banatu

Suština je ovo:

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Najviše stradale dece pripada grupi dece mlađe od jedne godine, a to su ona deca koja još uvek nisu vakcinisana (vakcina se daje sa navršenih godinu dana). Često pitanje koje protivnici vakcinacije postavljaju “kako moje nevakcinisano dete ugrožava vašu” može dobiti odgovor upravo na ovom primeru: do epidemije je došlo zbog porasta broja dece koja su mogla biti vakcinisana, dok je najveći broj nastradalih među bebama koja nisu mogle biti vakcinisane.

 

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Junkie   

Ovde ne mozes da dobijes potvrdu za vrtic ako dete nije vakcinisano .. GTFO moroni, bravo zdravstvo.

marsh u neku hippy hipsterku komunu na planinu, pa tamo nek rade sa svojim zivotom sta hoce.

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G!!!   

pa da lepo je kad imas poverenja u sistem i vidis da sve funkcionise

 

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primo   

^Kako je ovo povezano sa "poverenjem u sistem"? Skartirali su decu morona i to je to. To je dobra vest za roditelje.

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